In this interview on British television, Scott Lively is shown telling a Ugandan audience that gays contributed to the Holocaust and the Rwandan genocide — the country next door to Uganda — but he claims that he’s innocent of facilitating a climate of hate in Uganda. Perhaps his lawyer has advised him to stop bragging about what he did in Uganda and Russia while he’s running for governor of Massachusetts and facing trial for crimes against humanity. What’s nice about this clip is that, even when Lively is insanely claiming that President Obama is gay, the interviewer is having none of it, and pushes back, hard. That’s how real journalism is done.

[h/t Towleroad]