The other day, I posted video of Bryan Fischer using an extremely revisionist, anti-semitic, homophobic version of history to claim that the Nazis were a movement of gay men. I pointed out that, though he didn’t mention Scott Lively by name, that that man’s lying paws were all over Fischer’s statements.

Well, told you so. Fischer’s “explanation” for his comments leaves much to be desired:

Scott Lively’s well-documented book, “The Pink Swastika,” exposes…

No, Bryan, you idiot. Scott Lively’s book is a joke. The man is not a scholar, but rather a psychologically disturbed, rank bigot who is at least partially responsible for inspiring the gay genocide legislation in Uganda, and who is associated with several known hate groups, one of which is connected to anti-gay violence and murder in California.

Actual historians and scholars fairly universally repudiate the book as a work of malevolent fantasy.

From the Southern Poverty Law Center’s report on the book:

Written by fundamentalist activists Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams, The Pink Swastika says that rather than being victimized by the Nazis, gay men in Hitler’s inner circle actually helped mastermind the Holocaust.

“While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism,” write Lively and Abrams. “To the myth of the ‘pink triangle’ ‚Äî the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted ‚Äî we must respond with the reality of the ‘pink swastika.'”

Historians agree that this “reality” is utterly false. But many anti-gay crusaders have used the “gay Nazi” myth as proof that gay people are immoral and destructive.


The myth that Nazis condoned or promoted homosexuality sprang up as a slander against Nazi leaders by their socialist opponents in the 1930s. Only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler’s inner circle, Ernest Rohm, is believed by credible historians to have been gay.

The “gay Nazi” slander stuck, though, partly because German laws against homosexuals remained in place for a quarter of a century after World War II ended. That effectively silenced many homosexual victims of the Holocaust from telling their stories. A landmark survivor’s memoir, The Men With the Pink Triangle, began to break that silence in 1972.

There is no question that the Nazis saw homosexuality as one aspect of the “degeneracy” they were determined to extinguish. When it came to power in 1933, the Nazi Party moved quickly to strengthen Germany’s existing penalties against homosexuality. On Oct. 11, 1936, Hitler’s security chief, Heinrich Himmler, went further, announcing that homosexuality was to be “eliminated” in Germany, along with miscegenation between the races.

In 1942, the death penalty was instituted for homosexuality. Offenders in the German military were routinely shot. “That wasn’t a punishment,” Himmler explained, “but simply the extinguishing of abnormal life. It had to be got rid of, just as we pull out weeds, throw them on a heap, and burn them.”

Now, let me suggest something further. If (and I do mean “if”) there is any credible scholarship suggesting that Hitler had male lovers, while simultaneously including homosexuals among the groups that needed to be eradicated from the earth, then this is not a story Religious Right men like Bryan Fischer should want to be telling, because it wouldn’t reflect poorly on normal, well-adjusted LGBT people. It would reflect poorly on right-wing, closet cases like many of the men who are leaders of the Religious Right. Have you ever heard of George Rekers? His methods of eradicating homosexuality certainly aren’t to the level of Hitler, but that’s mostly because it’s hard to pull that kind of action off when you need to hire supple young male buttcheeks to lift your luggage. But he’s a shining example of a man who’s spent his life trying to eradicate in others the thing he hates most in himself.

If you’re interested in reading a long, detailed refutation of Lively’s and his co-writer Kevin Abrams’ work, click here. In that essay, the writer calls the historical revisionism, contortions, lies, and damned lies employed by Abrams and Lively “emotional and ignorant,” and she even details exactly where Abrams completely changed the words to his source text in order to keep his bigoted train of thought on track.

Toward the end of Bryan Fischer’s piece (it’s not worth quoting at length, because all he does is vomit back what Lively first vomited into his brain), there’s this curious line:

Even today in America, it is chic in some homosexual circles for individuals to wear replicas of Nazi Germany uniforms, complete with iron crosses, storm trooper outfits, military boots and even swastikas.

Raise your hand if you have any idea what the hell he’s talking about. Because I’m fairly familiar with most of the different sides of the LGBT community, and I have never seen anything resembling this. Unlike Bryan Fischer and Scott Lively, though, I only hang out with gays who are out of the closet, so it’s possible that Fischer and Lively have anti-semitic closeted gay friends that I don’t know about.

Anyway. Keep digging that hole, Bryan Fischer.