This is an interesting interview. Try not to cringe in the second section when, for some unknown reason (CNN, y’all really are batting a thousand, you know), King’s producers thought it would be a good idea to bring on a bigoted pastor to sit and talk about how sorry he feels for Jennifer. Props to Jennifer, though, for holding her tongue all the way through his entire ignorant, concern trolling tirade. Of course, there’s a hilarious moment at around 5:35 when Larry asks the pastor whether he made a “choice” to be a heterosexual, and he responds “I did!”

For the record: Pastor Bob Botsford of Horizon Christian Fellowship of San Diego could just as easily have been super gay, had that been what he wanted, and it wasn’t, so shut up.

In fairness, Larry mops the floor with the idiot pastor. So does Jen. So maybe they only brought him on for laughs.

In this segment, for some reason I cannot possibly put my finger on, they invite Ted Haggard on to give his perspective.